New (recalculated) land tax

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They have already started this week sending the letters with the new amounts for the land taxes. I have heard already some complaints from people who received and increase from 100% to 500% but mostly from people living in East Berlin that were paying peanuts. I have not received mine yet.

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I think I had mine a few months after doing the Elster entry. It went down a tiny bit.

But maybe that was just an interim solution?

Or maybe our Landkreis was years ahead. That's hard to believe, we are second slowest for tax returns in all of Germany, or some such awfulness.
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kiplette wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:36 pm I think I had mine a few months after doing the Elster entry. It went down a tiny bit.

But maybe that was just an interim solution?
Yes, it was an interim amount.
What you got is the Grundsteuermessbetrag-Bescheid.
The amount written in that Bescheid will get multiplied by a factor called the Grundsteuer-Hebesatz and the resulting amount will be your yearly Grundsteuer from 2025.

For example, if your Grundsteuermessbetrag was 30€ and the factor will be 8.24 (they usually put it in percent, i.e. 824%), then your yearly Grundsteuer will be:
  • 8.24 * 30€ = 247,20€
The cities have only now started to decide what factor they will use, but you can expect cities with high deficits to set high factors, to get a bit of income.

Munich will raise the factor from 5.35 to 8.24: https://muenchen-t--online-de.translate ... _hist=true
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Ah, crap. Thanks.

Wait and see, I guess. Our Stadt is quite pleite, I think.
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I am reading several article where basically they say to just context the new property value calculation if the increase is more than 50%.
If the current base values for the GS calculation were based on valus of 60-90 years ago I can'T believe how i could win a case if I contest an increase of "just" 50%.
Am I missing something here ?
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Frantic wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:53 am I am reading several article where basically they say to just context the new property value calculation if the increase is more than 50%.
If the current base values for the GS calculation were based on valus of 60-90 years ago I can'T believe how i could win a case if I contest an increase of "just" 50%.
Am I missing something here ?
I don't know what article you're reading, but I think you misunderstood something:
There is a problem if the the property value that has been calculated in the property tax return 2022 (Grundsteuererklärung 2022) through the method laid down for that Bundesland, leads to a property value that is 40% higher than the present market value of that property.
See the reference to "40 %" in this Haufe article (Haufe articles resist automatic translation by GoogleTranslate, just copy the text into DeepL.com to translate it): https://www.haufe.de/steuern/steuerwiss ... 81360.html
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We received ours today, it went down by around 30%. Very pleased with the outcome.
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In which area do you live?
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