Ryanair goes totally digital. No paper bording passes.

[colincostello]

So Ryanair have recently announced that they will no longer accept paper boarding passes. Boarding can only be done with a smart phone and only then with the Ryanair app and nothing else. I avoid this bunch wherever possible and now it seems I have no choice. But what happens if other airlines follow suit?
Codgers like me just do not feel comfortable with smart phones. Is this not age discriminastion ?

[warsteiner70]

You seem to be constantly looking for these type of issues where things can only be done online and then raise the question as to whether it's age discrimination, which isn't the case.

Age discrimination means that you are discriminated due to your age i.e. generally being very young or old but it isn't only very young or old people who may not have a smartphone.

In this case Ryanair allows for other options - https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/lp/explor ... rding-pass

"What about passengers who don't have a smartphone or tablet?

If passengers don’t have a smartphone or tablet, as long as they have already checked-in online before arriving at the airport, they will receive a free of charge boarding pass at the airport.

However, they will not be able to access real-time flight updates or benefit from enhanced customer service during any flight disruptions."

"What happens if I don’t check-in online before arriving at the airport?

You will be required to pay the airport check-in fee"

So, you will still have options if you don't have a smartphone.

[snowingagain]

OK, I sympathise with CC more than you do. I guess if you do not have a smartphone you need to ask someone who has one to do it? Easy for me, but not for all. Or do it at an internet cafe? OK. You could say these things are not age related, but I disagree. My mother, bless her, though bright, was hilariously bad at new tech. The alternative is a 30 and 55 GBP (?) fee for checking in at airport. Which seems a lot.

Happy travels everyone.

[warsteiner70]

It's not about me not having any sympathy with CC but the fact that he has stated several times on this, and the old TT, that he refuses to get a smartphone and will never get one.

I have a lot of sympathy for older people who don't understand new tech but when CC refuses to even consider getting a smart phone and then creates posts saying how he is being discriminated against due to his age, even though it is his personal choice not to get a smart phone, then I don't have a lot of sympathy.

He has access to a computer to be able to post on here so should be able to use the same computer to check-in online and then will need to get the paper boarding pass at the airport.

[Franklan]

Is this not age discriminastion ?

Just like it is "Amish discrimination" that horse drawn carts are forbidden on the Autobahn... If they insist on not operating modern shit like cars and such, it is them who have to deal with it.

[snowingagain]

I find that a bit harsh. I would not like all shops to go self checkout (mainly because all the crap happening like getting checked after you have gone through process, getting accused of theft, etc). Ditto shops that only take cards. Not keen. Sure, offer a discount to people using cards, etc. Carrots not sticks.

[Fraufruit]

I've been shopping here for over 35 years and always pay with cash. I seldom use self check out but if I only have a couple of items and the lines are long, I use it when one of the machines accepts cash.

Where do you shop with self checkout and get accused of stealing? I never saw that happen. Just curious.

I do, however, use my phone and Rewe app to get discounts and accrue bonuses.

Before I surrendered to airline apps, I simply got my boarding passes online and took a photo of the Q code on my boarding pass and just showed the photo at the airport. I didn't need to be online. Mind you, I printed out the tickets just in case.

Surely one can take photos with a non smart phone these days, if such a thing even exists.

[warsteiner70]

I find that a bit harsh. I would not like all shops to go self checkout (mainly because all the crap happening like getting checked after you have gone through process, getting accused of theft, etc). Ditto shops that only take cards. Not keen. Sure, offer a discount to people using cards, etc. Carrots not sticks.

And that is the same situation here. In supermarkets people have the option of not going to places where only self checkout is offered. In supermarkets where self checkout and 'normal' checkout is offered, people have the choice of, which option they want to use and can use the normal checkout even if it takes longer than the self checkout (something I do).

With Ryanair people have the choice of not flying with them if they don't want to have to use a digital boarding pass or pay for a paper one at the airport. There are plenty of other cheap airlines available and most offer better service than Ryanair.

It isn't even necessary to have a smartphone to use an App. You can use Apps on a tablet so there isn't anything stopping CC from getting a tablet and using Ryanair App to check-in and get his digital boarding pass. Depending on how often he flies with Ryanair, the amount he would pay for getting a paper boarding pass at the airport could cover the cost of a cheap tablet in a year or two.

My point is that CC constantly raises new threads whenever something changes from analog to digital and blames it on 'age discrimination' when, in his case, it is a personal choice not to own a smartphone and it isn't even necessary to have a smartphone to access digital content.

[bethannbitt]

...people have the choice of, which option they want to use and can use the normal checkout even if it takes longer than the self checkout (something I do).

With Ryanair people have the choice of not flying with them if they don't want to have to use a digital boarding pass or pay for a paper one at the airport. There are plenty of other cheap airlines available and most offer better service than Ryanair.

It isn't even necessary to have a smartphone to use an App. You can use Apps on a tablet so there isn't anything stopping CC from getting a tablet and using Ryanair App to check-in and get his digital boarding pass. Depending on how often he flies with Ryanair, the amount he would pay for getting a paper boarding pass at the airport could cover the cost of a cheap tablet in a year or two.

My point is that CC constantly raises new threads whenever something changes from analog to digital and blames it on 'age discrimination' when, in his case, it is a personal choice not to own a smartphone and it isn't even necessary to have a smartphone to access digital content.

I have to agree on all of these points. As one ages and technology advances one has to choose to keep learning or stay stuck in the past. And one always has the choice to tread lightly, but one can’t be deadset on holding the youngsters back. I attempt not to be overwhelmed by new technology by trying it out with a backup. Lately I’ll use boarding passes in mobile apps but keep a digital copy somewhere else as backup. And learning new things is actually good for brain health IMO.

[snowingagain]

If you only need phone for calls etc, an old style flip Nokia is great. Not only cheap, battery lasts much longer. And best of all for me, it is robust. They commonly last over 20 years. The number of phones my family have got through despite glass screens, even robust covers, is amazing. If you are on limited income, I can see the attractions with occasional use of internet at local library as back up. I can appreciate the attractions, old Luddite, me. Please keep posting CC.

[LeonG]

This seems to be the development. You need to be online to do things or you run into problems and/or have to pay extra. The first I've heard of an airport check in fee was a year ago and it was eurowings. I usually check in online. I used to print my boarding passes. I don't anymore. You can have your boarding pass as a screen shot or a pdf saved to your phone so you don't need to be online.

[tor]

I would print my boarding pass and tape it to my phone

[snowingagain]

So Ryanair have recently announced that they will no longer accept paper boarding passes. Boarding can only be done with a smart phone and only then with the Ryanair app and nothing else. I avoid this bunch wherever possible and now it seems I have no choice. But what happens if other airlines follow suit?
Codgers like me just do not feel comfortable with smart phones. Is this not age discriminastion ?

OK. It seem there is something of a workaround. So, check in online at your usual internet cafe, via downloading Ryanair app. Within the rather tight time line, but whatever. Then at airport apologise and say you have lost/broken your phone. However, of course there are some dangers using apps on a public network. But if you only use it for Ryanair, cannot see the problem. I hope this is correct info, but, ha, if not, I am sure some more tech savvy hTTi will respond.

[pappnase]

Why are you making such a song and dance about this? Just checking before you fly as you would have done before.

https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/lp/explore/digital-boarding-pass

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[yesterday]

Not to be insulting to CC, as I like his style on here, he is never aggressive and just seems a nice person.

But I also agree with what has been written above, about this.

I think has got to a point in life, where things are becoming difficult, I feel it sometimes as well. I used to understand how to do things in Germany or the world and all if not most things are changing. I sometimes long for the older days, when I knew what to do and just got on with things.

You could get help from a person on the telephone, who could sort things out for you, if you did not know what to do, not anymore without a long wait on the telephone and then you might have to ring again because you forgot to ask a question.

The thing is that life does not freeze at a certain point, its changing and at an ever faster pace. The problem is that you have to keep up, with the changes or you lose the options to do certain things, Its kinda ok, to stop using the internet or even only use it twice a week, but then you miss the chance to keep up to date. CC may have heard on the Radio about the Ryanair change on the Radio, but of course you never get all the details on the Radio, you just get the headlines.

Of course you maybe forget to check this next time you are at the Library or some other internet place, then you do not know the details of how to get around it, its better just to be able to use the internet when its in your head, rather than wait a couple of days and then its gone from your head.

Unfortunately, you have to keep up to date in these days, and its much easier to do it from your home computer/tablet or smartphone, while at home, if you have to go outside to make these checks, then you maybe less inclined to do it and thus not know the ways to get around it, because he will not do this then problems may come more often.

Throughout history, change has come and humans have to adapt to, like at one point people had to learn to read and write, or during the industrial revolution.

Unfortunately if CC, does not accept the new world, with always on internet / smartphones, these questions will keep coming. As its more difficult to keep current without these systems.


I am pleased nobody had attack him, just like TT should be.

[Fraufruit]

Even if you keep up, things can still get very complicated. Himself worked for about 4 hours to get my email functioning again, for example. It had been down for 5 days - Outlook (Hotmail). I can manage most things but I'm not a techy.

I've been chatting with support on a website I subscribe to in order to watch PGA golf. I'm now best friends with the support person. He said he never dealt with anyone with such patience. It is still possible to get good support when you get the right person on the right website. I told him we are now best friends. He agreed.

[LeonG]

It is still possible to get good support when you get the right person on the right website. I told him we are now best friends. He agreed.

Yeah, and then you can get the wrong person too. A few weeks ago, Telekom offered me to upgrade my internet to glasfaser, faster internet, same price. When trying to get an appointment for the installation, I found out that the initial person put me down as a renter, hence they couldn't do an install without approval of the owner. The next person I talked to offered to correct this although they had to cancel my contract and do up a new one. Both of them were really nice by the way. Trying to schedule again, I find out they are probably getting to me next summer but they don't do appointments that far ahead and also that the last person who re-did my contract put me down at a higher price so now I'm on my 3rd contract. We'll see what the future holds.

[yesterday]

watch PGA golf.

if you want to watch that get the app sportxz app

in categories they have that as a live channel, so maybe you have to stay up late to see it.

you can put the app on a firestick, and watch directly on your TV.

Always use a VPN.

[Fraufruit]

I don't watch on my phone and don't have/want/need a firestick but thanks.

The problem is that PGA coverage has become crap on all of my usual sources including Peacock (dropped Golf Channel) and ESPN+ which had very little coverage the last couple of years. I got on several channels all over the world today with the new thing I was trying and they were all showing LPGA. I don't watch (or bet on) that.

So just getting all the channels does not mean I can watch tournaments which run Thur. - Fri. every week.

Thanks again for the suggestion.

[editorL]

watch PGA golf.

Look, being a Moderator on a forum is one thing...

Well anyway, never mind, but this thread ain't 'bout golfing, t'is about "Ryanair pushing digital booking", am I right? Focus, please...