school exchange and Anmeldung

[Alberto]

If my 15yo daugther does a 10-months period outside Germany for a school exchange, sometime maybe next year or the year after, should we abmelden her?
I asked this question just now to the school (the German school), and they answered no, she will remain angemeldet here in Germany.
But I find this very strange, I suspect they are simply wrong. After all the country where you are formally resident is (or should be) the one where you spend most nights in the given year. Like tax (I know tax and school are different things, but still.....). No?

Any clue?
Thanks,

[snowingagain]

My daughter did similar. No, keep her registered here. Her health insurance will cover her with a top up. She is only visiting the other country, she is not emigrating.

[Alberto]

My daughter did similar. No, keep her registered here. Her health insurance will cover her with a top up. She is only visiting the other country, she is not emigrating.

OK, thanks a lot.
I trust you. But I am extremely surprised.

[Alberto]

Her health insurance will cover her with a top up.

What do you mean?
You mean her Germany KK will cover her health care while she's outside Germany, by us paying a top-up, so there's no need for her to have an health insurance over there? Sounds strange....

I guess the following (but as usual, I'm probably wrong):
As for the German KK, her remaining formally angemeldet here means her German KK will continue to cover her here. Never mind sh'e not physically here. So we (continue to) do nothing.
And for over there, she will need coverage as the locals, in whatever format they have over there.

[Franklan]

I asked this question just now to the school (the German school), and they answered no, she will remain angemeldet here in Germany.

That's right, no "abmelden".

But her school needs to allow that one year ("Beurlaubung"). And one foundation for the "Beurlaubung" are her current grades. They shouldn't be too bad.

A good timing would be to leave after finishing class 10, and come back after a year to begin class 11 ("Eingeschobenes Auslandsschuljahr").

[Alberto]

I asked this question just now to the school (the German school), and they answered no, she will remain angemeldet here in Germany.

That's right, no "abmelden".

But her school needs to allow that one year ("Beurlaubung"). And one foundation for the "Beurlaubung" are her current grades. They shouldn't be too bad.

A good timing would be to leave after finishing class 10, and come back after a year to begin class 11 ("Eingeschobenes Auslandsschuljahr").

Ok, more specific:
Say she's now in grade 10, and she does grade 11 outside. They said that depending on her grade at the time, and how long the exchange, they will decide whether, when returning to Germany, she can jump into grade 12, or she better repeat grade 11. I imagine they will expect (rightfully so) her year outside Germany not to count much academically and will make her repeat it here in Germany. Hard to blame them: how well can you learn at grade 10 if your reading/writing is Kita-level....?

Even more complicated with the fact that in Japan, where she would go, the school year starts April 1st.

But about Anmeldung... I thought this is down to immigration law or whatever a Government set, entirely beyond educational Behorde.....
I thought the difference between "only visiting" and "emigrating" boils down to the duration. Like taxes. I am probably wrong.....

[Franklan]

Say she's now in grade 10, and she does grade 11 outside. They said that depending on her grade at the time, and how long the exchange, they will decide whether, when returning to Germany, she can jump into grade 12, or she better repeat grade 11. I imagine they will expect (rightfully so) her year outside Germany not to count much academically and will make her repeat it here in Germany. Hard to blame them: how well can you learn at grade 10 if your reading/writing is Kita-level....?

Even more complicated with the fact that in Japan, where she would go, the school year starts April 1st.

But about Anmeldung... I thought this is down to immigration law or whatever a Government set, entirely beyond educational Behorde.....
I thought the difference between "only visiting" and "emigrating" boils down to the duration. Like taxes. I am probably wrong.....

You might want to read about Kulturhoheit der Länder. It is - in a nutshell - a reaction to the the Nazi state declaring which books must be read and which one shouldn't be read.

But here are the details for Schleswig Holstein:

"Landesverordnung über die Gestaltung der Oberstufe und der Abiturprüfung in den Gymnasien und Gemeinschaftsschulen (OAPVO)" for Schleswig Holstein: https://www.rhs-kiel.de/unterricht/ober ... /oapvo.pdf

"§ 5
Regulations governing stays abroad
After returning from a stay abroad, the school career shall be continued in the year group
in which the stay abroad began. Notwithstanding this,

1. particularly high-achieving pupils who were granted leave of absence during the introductory phase
to attend school abroad for at least six months and at most one year
may, upon their return, apply to skip one school semester
of the introductory phase or the entire introductory phase;
2. pupils who were granted leave of absence during the first year of the qualification phase
in order to attend school abroad for at least six months may, upon application, have their results
from the introductory phase credited towards the requirements for the qualification phase;
in the case of a six-month stay, only the results from the second half of the introductory phase may be credited.
The headteacher shall decide on the applications. Foreign certificates
cannot be taken into account when calculating the overall qualification (§ 31).
The head teacher shall decide on the applications. Foreign performance
records cannot be taken into account when calculating the overall qualification (§ 31)
" (Translated with deepl)

So, you can apply for the year abroad to count, but the head teacher decides on that application. Considering that foreign certificates are not taken into account for the calculation of the final result, it basically boils down that this is not going to happen.

how well can you learn at grade 10 if your reading/writing is Kita-level....?

Huh? Again - as I already wrote - you have to apply for "Beurlaubung" and this might get rejected if her current grades are too bad.

[LeonG]

A friends daughter went on school exchange to Canada last year. If she would have stayed the full winter, she would not have gotten credit and would have lost a year. She had another option which was to come back in Feb. which would allow her to complete the school year here without a loss so that is what she did.

As for the anmeldung, I have seen similar rules in other countries as well that there are exceptions for students because they still have a base at their parents house and are away temporarily.