Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Alberto wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:55 am Technology replacing workers that are then left without work is an economic myth that died very long time ago.
The 'myth' is that long term, there are fewer jobs available because the machines took them. That is, agreed, not true on a historical economic scale.

Unfortunately, vast swathes of people are however left unemployed after huge shifts because people-jobs-geography-ability and the many other factors involved are not a free flowing system. The advent of mills had a catastrophic effect on the household income of those thousands involved in home-based hand spinning for 50 years. Historically we can say that in the end, the job market just shifts, but that doesn't change the disaster which happened to those actual people.

Like it or not, regardless of opinion, when these changes happen, although new jobs are created and are available, they are not necessarily available to the same people who lost their jobs at the time they need them. So in the short term and in specific geographical areas or groups, people are absolutely left without work.
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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kiplette wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:51 am
Alberto wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:55 am Technology replacing workers that are then left without work is an economic myth that died very long time ago.
The 'myth' is that long term, there are fewer jobs available because the machines took them. That is, agreed, not true on a historical economic scale.

Unfortunately, vast swathes of people are however left unemployed after huge shifts because people-jobs-geography-ability and the many other factors involved are not a free flowing system. The advent of mills had a catastrophic effect on the household income of those thousands involved in home-based hand spinning for 50 years. Historically we can say that in the end, the job market just shifts, but that doesn't change the disaster which happened to those actual people.

Like it or not, regardless of opinion, when these changes happen, although new jobs are created and are available, they are not necessarily available to the same people who lost their jobs at the time they need them. So in the short term and in specific geographical areas or groups, people are absolutely left without work.
But even if this is true, what's the answer? Rejecting technology because otherwise it causes dirsuption in the distribution of work that people cannot cope with?
By the way I guess you too have dishwasher car computer and everything else...
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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I don't think that rejecting technology is either an option or a better choice, but I suppose having understanding for people in difficulty is one thing we can do, not belittling their predicament and actively supporting them - which we do I guess through taxation here in Germany.

We do indeed have most of the usual labour saving devices - they do a good job of reducing domestic labour which would otherwise have been done by me, thus freeing me up to daddle away my time on here :lol:
Affording a maid or cook was long gone by the time my parents were born, let alone me. In the UK that is. When they were posted to Cyprus, they had a maid, and when my sister worked in Kuwait she had one. Much against her principles, but it was pointed out that if she didn't continue to hire the maid, she'd lose her income.
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Drifting away from thread name, but I lived in Arab place for a bit, no maid (sorry). But eye opening the way some EU etc people treated the domestic staff. All hired from India/Indonesia etc and had to pay a lot to get there so in debt for years. The gate boys were nice, polite, did their jobs. The only reason I went to the compound meetings was to vote down the new rules requiring more work and improvement in their appearance. One pushy woman memorably demanded guy clean the huge mainly glass clubhouse with Windolene. It was 45 degrees, and he did not know better. You can imagine the outcome. People get power-mad surprisingly fast.
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Similar experience in Singapore many years ago. When we were looking at flats, the realtor showed me where my maid could sleep on the top shelf in the pantry in a couple of the places. I was shocked. We got a place where she had her own private room and bath. I treated her like a friend and she was. I took her to my hairdresser, doctor, etc. and paid all of her food. I was disgusted at how I saw other Western women treating their maids like slaves. BTW, we are still in contact 36 years later and I still send her a little something a couple of times a year.
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Bumper crops of Potatoes this year....

Do they bring the price down? Do they fuck... they just sell you more spuds at almost the same price.....

When I bought spuds last time , I only used 1.5kg from a 2kg net!...... so basically chucked half kilo away.

Now I will be chucking 1.5 KG away...

Well done Lidl Aldi etc etc!
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Just another example of the Discounters greed!

Aldi.. Special offer... Lays Chips (150g )... Various sorts.. 95cts....
5 Meters away in the "Snacks Aisle"... Lays Chips (150g) Various sorts... 1.99€

So I picked up a bag of the expensive ones.... and obviously I took a picture of both sales labels...

At check out.. was charged 1.99€ I objected... the cashier messaged the duty manageressbitchtypecreature... I showed her both pictures.... she buggered off to the offers dept... read out a code and my chips suddenly became 95cts...

Result!! However... just as she did it, she ripped down the cheap label and replaced it with the costly one!

Lidl have been informed!
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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100% agree that you have to advocate strongly for yourself in the groceries. I go as far as updating my Google reviews for shops when there is a quality or service decline.
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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Now when you are mentioning google reviews, it is not possible to add them to bunch of places anymore.
Like schools or US consulate in Munich.
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Nixon wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 7:19 pm Now when you are mentioning google reviews, it is not possible to add them to bunch of places anymore.
Like schools or US consulate in Munich.
Years ago my German neighbor wrote an honest assessment of an eye doctor in Konstanz (who was sanctioned for his negligence in the meantime) and he threatened to sue her for slander. And he got Google to remove that review. Now we see such behavior routinely coming down from on high in our native land. 😟
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Re: Problems in Supermarkets in Germany

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bethannbitt wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 8:03 pm
Nixon wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 7:19 pm Now when you are mentioning google reviews, it is not possible to add them to bunch of places anymore.
Like schools or US consulate in Munich.
Years ago my German neighbor wrote an honest assessment of an eye doctor in Konstanz (who was sanctioned for his negligence in the meantime) and he threatened to sue her for slander. And he got Google to remove that review. Now we see such behavior routinely coming down from on high in our native land. 😟
SLAPP suits:
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