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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9r4q99g4o

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news ... 5-intl-hnk

If this doesn't get him impeached, nothing will.

Conflicting reports as to how much damage was actually caused.

Obviously the orange buffoon is claiming "complete obliteration" but two of the facilities were only attacked with Tomahawks which wouldn't have done anything more than surface damage. I also have my doubts about the capability of the bunker busters getting deep into solid mountain rock.

Fraufruit wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:20 am If this doesn't get him impeached, nothing will.

wikipedia on the phrase "Wag the dog"

Quote from that:
"It has been used multiple times for former President Donald Trump. First, in April 2017 when he conducted airstrikes against Syria during an investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, and again in January 2020, after a U.S. airstrike assassination of Iran's General Qasem Soleimani occurred during first impeachment trials of former President Trump."

Concerning the phrase "Wag the dog": My recommendation is the movie by the same name.

Eric7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:45 am Conflicting reports as to how much damage was actually caused.

Obviously the orange buffoon is claiming "complete obliteration" but two of the facilities were only attacked with Tomahawks which wouldn't have done anything more than surface damage. I also have my doubts about the capability of the bunker busters getting deep into solid mountain rock.

Healthy skepticism is always warranted cuz these diversions are intended to get our minds on something else. That’s the overall strategy.

While I just do not like the current situation, I should also say, I am not happy with middle eastern countries ( and many other countries ) gaining Nuclear weapons either. I am not sure what can be done in a more nice way to prevent them from getting the bomb, probably nothing.

It seemed that America wanted to act quickly, because Iran, was moving stuff out of the area and if it had waited 2 weeks there may have been nothing left to destroy.

Very difficult decisions .....

Nuclear weapons are just frightening no matter who has them. The question is, who gets to decide who gets to have them?

Unfortunately or not, there are no real rules for how things should happen in these kinda of situations.

Normally the might is right rule applies, ie the greatest ( biggest ) military powers will decide what should happen and implement it with their might.

The UN etc will chime in, but the might is right will apply.

The sad thing is that i believe that Iran will continue to try to develop the bomb, some where else in their country after this. I am sure that IRAN can will find a place that cannot be attacked from the air, if they look hard enough, so what should happen then ?

Normally I think countries should be allowed to develop in the way they want to, but unfortunately, this may not happen in this case.

I'm sure it must have been hell if you were nearby when they dropped, but the before and after photos (which seem to be based on Fraufruit's earlier link), suggest that the place certainly wasn't obliterated.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... sual-guide