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German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 2:08 pm
by ian
Discover the Top Cities to Feel at Home Abroad in 2024
https://www.internations.org/expat-insi ... 8#bottom10

We're looking at you, Munich!

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysys

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 2:19 pm
by Sannerl
ian wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:08 pm Discover the Top Cities to Feel at Home Abroad in 2024
https://www.internations.org/expat-insi ... 8#bottom10

We're looking at you, Munich!
(shrug) Certainly not our fault.
We have a Swedish guest here at the moment (a couple of days before and including VCFe) - he stays at a hotel nearby, but we party in the evenings.
Our Korean friends always feel welcome here.
When we are anywhere and see that someone needs help (public transport, shopping, dining, whatever) we try to help.

Blame the governments, but not us citizens.

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 12:47 pm
by kaffeemitmilch
Where is 'here'? Munich?

What's VCFe?

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:41 pm
by john_b
Yeah, sure....but it's all relative, isn't it?

I mean I'm well aware of Berlin's many shortcomings, and Schnauze is just plain rudeness - but at the same time you couldn't pay me to live in Riyadh, Doha or Abu Dhabi! :D

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:46 pm
by Sannerl
kaffeemitmilch wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 12:47 pm Where is 'here'? Munich?

What's VCFe?
As I quoted; yes.

Vintage Computer Festival

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 2:12 pm
by yesterday
This is all a bit subjective

Look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_qual ... fe_indices

It gives 6 different measures on the quality of life in various cities, I am sure you could make up rules in a hundred different ways, to give one city an advantage over another. Or just use things like its to hot or cold there.

Of course, me living in Munich, would have to agree that the best place to live in is Munich, according to the above linked webpage ( Monocle's Quality of Life Survey ) :D However its strange that Munich is not even listed in the top 9 cities by the other ratings methods.

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 4:47 pm
by Alberto
yesterday wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 2:12 pm This is all a bit subjective

Look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_qual ... fe_indices
Yes, very subjective.
I looked at it very briefly and I find something strange:
A) almost all cities are in Europe.
B) all cities are in the West (plus Japan).
C) I read many times that people in poor countries are generally happier than us in rich countries. Yet the happier cities are all rich.

I guess it reflects more how the data were gathered. In fact, I suspect MOST cities (the whole of Africa, perhaps most of Asia and South America) were simply excluded from start.

Re: German cities do badly in expat analysis

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 6:27 pm
by Franklan
yesterday wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 2:12 pm This is all a bit subjective
Sure.

If you consider being gay/lesbian repulsive, you won't like San Francisco or Cologne.

If you don't mind other people's sexual orientation, you will like the relaxed atmosphere in those two cities.

YMMV.