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Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:59 pm
by Ihor
Hello, my name is Igor, I am a refugee from Ukraine. I am 24 years old and looking for an apartment in Munich. I began to take an interest in German history and culture, and to learn the language. I really want to assimilate into German society and hope that there will be people who will help me with housing :)

If you have something to offer or If you can help in any way , please contact:

Telegram, Viber, whatsApp - +380732138577
or
barbanihor@gmail.com

Vielen Dank für Ihre Aufmerksamkeit. 😊

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:19 pm
by Alberto
Welcome, Igor!
Sorry, I can't help on this specific topic.

Congrats for making an effort in learning German language. It is of course "possible" to live in Germany without German language, but not recommended.

Finding accommodation in major German cities is notoriously very difficult and expensive, and I hear in Munich maybe even more difficult and expensive.

Good luck with everything.

Oh, and please stay active in this forum. People here are generally very nice, welcoming, and helpful.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:22 pm
by Franklan
Ihor wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:59 pm Hello, my name is Igor, I am a refugee from Ukraine. I am 24 years old and looking for an apartment in Munich. I began to take an interest in German history and culture, and to learn the language. I really want to assimilate into German society and hope that there will be people who will help me with housing :)

If you have something to offer or If you can help in any way , please contact:
Hello Igor, it is a pain in the ass to look at what it is going on in Ukraine right now... There is a war, nobody can sugar coat that.
It is also nice to notice that Germany allowed you to be on German soil as a refuggee. Good!

However, it wonders me a little bit why you believe that the "job center" has to support you in finding an apartment in Munich (The most expensive place - when it comes to to paying rent - in Germany), and why people on this forum should support you in doing that?

Your interest in "German history and culture" is noticed, but could it be possible that you're starting - with your interest in "I really want to assimilate into German society" - a little bit on the easy side?

Let's assume the German "Job Center" has a flat with a non-leaking roof in "Jerkmater upon Pee" (80km away from Munich, in the dark parts of the old Bavaria) and would allow you to stay there for free, would you say "no" (because it isn't Munich)?

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:14 pm
by kiplette
Does the 'job centre' bit you refer to come from the title?

If so, he means that his rent will get paid by the state, so a prospective landlord need not worry about him not being able to pay his rent.

That's what I take from it, anyway. Mates of ours rent out rooms above their house in exactly this way, to young Ukrainians. Rent is assured.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:29 pm
by Ihor
I'm just looking for opportunities, it's really hard to find something for someone who isn't looking. I'm not counting on anyone's specific help, I just need some pointers and some light to shed on the road in the dark (so far) forest for me. People are the best keepers of information, I'm sure that sooner or later someone will come along and help me out.

In fact, I don't mind any kind of housing that can be provided to me, I am incredibly grateful for any help and the system of assistance to people like me in Germany :)

But it is absolutely possible to find the same kind of housing in Munich for average money. I am now staying in my friend's apartment for only 600 euros a month. I don't think a job center really cares where the
apartment, as long as it's the same money until I learn the language and find a job in my specialty.

P.S.
Refugees from Ukraine are mostly people with secondary and higher education, specialists in various fields, and they are motivated to stay to learn the language and become part of the community. I am very glad that the German state understands the importance of onboarding people with a similar mentality of different specialties, in fact, very cheaply (no need to pay for schools, kindergartens and other social benefits) and this is very reasonable and we appreciate it very much.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:04 pm
by Fraufruit
May I ask what the maximum warm rent is that you can pay?

I'm asking because I am currently helping a friend search for a flat who is relocating here and I can also keep my eyes open for you.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:54 pm
by bethannbitt
Ihor wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:29 pm I am incredibly grateful for any help and the system of assistance to people like me in Germany :)

P.S.
Refugees from Ukraine are mostly people with secondary and higher education, specialists in various fields, and they are motivated to stay to learn the language and become part of the community.
Thank you so much for providing us with such a clear explanation. I live further south on the Bodensee and have witnessed firsthand how Ukrainian refugees are indeed working hard to integrate in our community. Also, I’ve had the privilege to help several Ukranian children in an after school program at a local primary school. I am quite impressed with the support they receive at home despite having parents who are also having to learn German and forge new lives. I wish you much success in your endeavor.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:15 am
by LeonG
Ihor wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:29 pm But it is absolutely possible to find the same kind of housing in Munich for average money. I am now staying in my friend's apartment for only 600 euros a month. I don't think a job center really cares where the
apartment, as long as it's the same money until I learn the language and find a job in my specialty.
The job center you are dealing with is bound to their area so if you find an apartment outside of it, you would have to deal with the job center in that area. If you find an apartment, the job center generally wants you to get a quote for the rent and utilities approved by them before you sign a contract. They have a form letter for this quote. Some landlords do not like job center tenants for various reasons. One of them might be that they could get more money than the job center caps at, especially in areas where apartments are hard to find. Anyway, your job center would be able to tell you what your max cold rent and utilities are in that area.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:46 pm
by Ihor
Fraufruit wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:04 pm May I ask what the maximum warm rent is that you can pay?

I'm asking because I am currently helping a friend search for a flat who is relocating here and I can also keep my eyes open for you.
Thank you very much for your answer on the forum. You asked me what hot price I am willing to pay for an apartment, I think it is somewhere around 1000 euros. I would be very grateful for any tips in my search

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:59 pm
by bramble
Ihor wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:46 pm
Fraufruit wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:04 pm May I ask what the maximum warm rent is that you can pay?

I'm asking because I am currently helping a friend search for a flat who is relocating here and I can also keep my eyes open for you.
Thank you very much for your answer on the forum. You asked me what hot price I am willing to pay for an apartment, I think it is somewhere around 1000 euros. I would be very grateful for any tips in my search
Excuse me, I may be a bit dense, but to me it's not clear from your original post, so may I ask whether you are already living in a flat in Munich at the moment and want to move elsewhere in Munich - and also what is the Jobcenter paying you?

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:31 am
by LeonG
Ihor wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:46 pm Thank you very much for your answer on the forum. You asked me what hot price I am willing to pay for an apartment, I think it is somewhere around 1000 euros. I would be very grateful for any tips in my search
If job center is supposed pay for it as you put in your title, then it is according to https://www.buergergeld.org/news/buerge ... 93-Tabelle it is up to 764€ cold with utilities other than heating up to 85. Double check with the job center to make sure.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:15 am
by bramble
Here' a link to a table especially for Landkreis Munich, depending on the area of Munich: https://www.landkreis-muenchen.de/theme ... m-sgb-xii/

The table shows the respective Kaltmiete. Ancillary and heating costs are recognized in the actual amount.

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:11 pm
by Bayrisch_Dude
Franklan wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:22 pm
Let's assume the German "Job Center" has a flat with a non-leaking roof in "Jerkmater upon Pee" (80km away from Munich, in the dark parts of the old Bavaria) and would allow you to stay there for free, would you say "no" (because it isn't Munich)?

I'll have you know Mr Franklan that the Oberallgäu is far from dark. We prefer a nice subtle shade of grey. :lol: :lol:

Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:28 pm
by Franklan
Bayrisch_Dude wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:11 pm We prefer a nice subtle shade of grey.
Recently, in a DIY store in the Allgäu...
dulux.jpg
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Re: Long-term apartment rental, payment by job center

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:35 am
by Bayrisch_Dude
Franklan wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:28 pm
Bayrisch_Dude wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:11 pm We prefer a nice subtle shade of grey.
Recently, in a DIY store in the Allgäu...
dulux.jpg
looks akin to our monthly Allgäu calendar.