Legalising cannabis

[JanxSpirit]

The Bubatzkarte shows areas where you can/can't smoke weed openly.

Here https://bubatzkarte.de/#16/48.1370/11.5756 shows Munich Marienplatz, around where Killian's Irish Pub is. Unfortunately you can't smoke pot outside

[Fraufruit]

Unfortunately you can't smoke pot outside

That's funny. You could before the new law.

[Fietsrad]

Can or may?

[kaffeemitmilch]

I know what I'm going to plant on April the 1st

I'd be inclined to believe you if you had chosen ANY other day

[kaffeemitmilch]

I'm all for it. Smoking a blunt isn't criminal.

Could no agree more. Even when I was law enforcement I refused to work any investigation involving ganja. I worked only one in 24 years. I never felt it belonged to the same category as other controlled substances.

The most dangerous side effect from THC is donating one's life savings to the nearest pizzeria.

Good for you!

[JanxSpirit]

I'd be inclined to believe you if you had chosen ANY other day

You better believe it baby, I barely believed the Bundestag beschließen the Bhang Bundesgesetz for 1st April

(And... Grammar Nazis, I know, just grant me some poetic alliteration licence

[Keleth]

Never touched the stuff in my life and don´t intend to.
Never had a pothead throw up on me or get abusive so if people want to smoke it it seems to do a lot less harm to others than alcohol does and no govt is going to ban alcohol.
So can´t see a problem with it being legalised.

[jaycool]

Do you remember when they first implemented the can and plastic-bottle deposit back in 2002 or so? Back then, there were no machines to collect the returns, and you had to return them to the same location you bought them from, with your receipt as proof of deposit payment.

That is what I think of the new cannabis law. It's a step in the right direction, but needs a lot of tweaking. For me, it effectively legalized the weed I already had, while offering no legal method of purchasing or otherwise acquiring it. You can plant your own, but that won't be useable until July at the very earliest, if you planted it in April.

Essentially, they said, if you can get it illegally without getting caught, it is then legal. Kind of stupid, if you ask me. I was really looking forward to not needing the darknet anymore, while still having easy access without the hassle of planting, maintaining, harvesting, drying and curing.

[Krieg]

Cannibis isn't metabolized for days and can be detected in one's system long after the 2 hour or so high effect is gone. So, just because it is detected, doesn't mean the person is impaired.

That's the problem, the driving laws should be updated after the legalization that just happened. With the current laws you can lose your license for smoking a joint and driving four days after that.

I quote myself here because it happened already. The limit for driving after consuming Cannabis has been increased from 1 nanogram/mL to 3.5 nanogram/mL making it more reasonable and ending the absurdity of losing your license for driving one week after smoking a joint. The new limit is considered the equivalent of driving with a 0.2 Promille level of alcohol.

P.S., I still do not know when the new limit start to apply.

[JanxSpirit]

Cannibis isn't metabolized for days and can be detected in one's system long after the 2 hour or so high effect is gone. So, just because it is detected, doesn't mean the person is impaired.

That's the problem, the driving laws should be updated after the legalization that just happened. With the current laws you can lose your license for smoking a joint and driving four days after that.

I quote myself here because it happened already. The limit for driving after consuming Cannabis has been increased from 1 nanogram/mL to 3.5 nanogram/mL making it more reasonable and ending the absurdity of losing your license for driving one week after smoking a joint. The new limit is considered the equivalent of driving with a 0.2 Promille level of alcohol.

P.S., I still do not know when the new limit start to apply.

This guy knows his stuff.

First, by request, here's the bit:



Edit:
hmmm, link not working

https://www.youtube.com/live/_iFA9c93F5 ... LYk84EbFyE


The bit about driving @ 8m15s

[Bayrisch_Dude]

Cannibis isn't metabolized for days and can be detected in one's system long after the 2 hour or so high effect is gone. So, just because it is detected, doesn't mean the person is impaired.

Aye, if a hair (with follicle) is taken, THC can be detected up to 90 days. One would say that by day 89, the effects are no longer felt. I recall urine is about 30 days. Blood and saliva I don't recall exactly but I think less than two days.

[jaycool]

Harvested my first plant a few days ago. One more will be ready in a week or two, and a third is just entering the flowering stage.

I harvested the first plant a bit early, because my black market stuff was dwindling, and I’m not buying more.

[john_b]

I'm waiting for my plant....

https://youtu.be/99og_g7rXnA?si=4HaURk_QMBQ_T8L3

[kaffeemitmilch]

Where y'all buying plants from?

[jaycool]

not plants. Seeds. Google. I bought mine from herbies seeds in Spain.

[jaycool]

A little more detailed.

As far as I understand the law, you are allowed to have weed, but not buy it. Same goes for plants. Seeds are another story. AFAIK, it is still illegal to sell seeds in Germany, but it is definitely not illegal to have them, so order them from another EU country.

Those clubs can't even apply for a license yet. There is currently no way to legally get weed, without growing it yourself or having a prescription. You aren't even allowed to share with a friend. So you can't even ask me for some. Even if I have too much, I'm not breaking the law, when there is absolutely no need to do so. I broke that law since I've been in Germany. I can (and will) follow it now.

I ordered my seeds on the first of April and sowed the first seed on the 8th of April.

I ordered "Apple Betty" and "Gorilla Glue". Zkittelz (pronounced skittles) came as a free bonus. The apple betty is the one that I harvested very early. Still a great high, but the yield was on the very low-side, at about 30g. of dry weight (about 300 Euros on the darkweb).

The Zkittelz was always about a week behind in maturity, even though they were sown simultaneously. I'm letting that one go to maturity. I didn't sow the gorilla glue until about three weeks later, so that has a while to go yet.

With 3 Adults registered at my house (even though my son is studying in Hamburg), I can have up to 9 plants, but I don't smoke that much, and 3 plants should yield well over my needs for a year, when I'll plant 2 (probably, maybe 3) more. Wait a year and repeat.

I bought a tent and the fan, charcoal filter, etc, 2 lights @ 600 W each. The next plant (the Zkittelz) should yield proceeds exceeding any expenses, and it's all free weed after that.

[jaycool]

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My plants a couple of weeks ago.

I guess we could almost move this thread to my blog.

Anywho. There are some places offering to send weed. I figure it is one of two things, scammers or the black market weed sellers trying to stay in business. The process is the same, send it hermetically sealed, and things generally don't get checked for inland post. I would personally stay away from them. Even though weed is legal, purchasing it isn't and you have no legal recourse.

Of course you didn't have that legal recourse on the black market, but the vendor didn't get paid until the buyer released the funds held by the marketplace that was hosting these vendors. That kept everyone more or less honest, and I never got cheated. You rated the sellers, similar to Amazon, with the difference being that you ALWAYS rated the seller. It was, therefore, not in their best interests to underweight your shipment or anything like that.

Now, I assume you just pay and pray.

I am far from a gardener. I plant chilis every year, but only had one year that really gave me any quantity. I really have no clue what I'm doing, yet I have three plants, with one harvested, and two in varying stages of flowering and both growing strong.

The wife accidentally killed one, that's why the gorilla glue was resown about 3 weeks after the others. Otherwise, I have had no problems other than a bit of nutrient burn from too much fertilizer. All of my seeds were autoflowering, which means I don't have to worry about the duration of lighting, which activates flowering in non-autos.

There is 0 reason to break the law, imo. You just need an investment up front, with the size of that investment depending on whether you are growing indoors or outdoors. I invested under 500 bucks, have already harvested about 300 bucks so far, and would harvest another 300 if I harvested the Zkittelz right now, rather than waiting for a hopefully even larger harvest.

[Fraufruit]

No, we don't need to move this thread to your blog. You aren't the only person who is interested in this topic. And, yea, I know you were joking.

You see 0 reason for anyone to break the law yet how many years have you been buying weed and consuming it? Not everyone has a place to grow. I don't, for one.

I don't know of anybody who orders weed online. Seeds? Sure.

Just do your thing and keep us posted on how it's going.

My current interest is in getting a prescription for THC from my doctor. A medical person told me the other day that, if you get a prescription for it, you will lose your driver's license. I refuse to believe that.

I'm wondering if Krankenversicherung pays for such prescriptions. Where do you get it and where does it come from. If insurance doesn't pay, does it cost more than €10 per gram which is the going price?

I'll be taking to my doctor soon. I have a lot of questions.

[jaycool]

You see 0 reason for anyone to break the law yet how many years have you been buying weed and consuming it? Not everyone has a place to grow. I don't, for one.

My tent is 80cm x 80cm x180cm and is sitting in the corner of my home-office. When I wrote that about breaking the law, I admittedly didn't take space into account, but that is simply because I assumed everyone had 80x80 corner somewhere, but, yes, there are definitely situations in which it would still be "necessary" to break the law.

I was definitely not considering people in situations in which they would need to hide it from someone other than just the police, such as spouse or parents, or simply being underage... I modify my statement to: there is probably no reason for the average adult person to break the law, if they are willing to invest a bit and can find a spot in the corner.

[Fraufruit]

Thanks for that. I have to move furniture to roll out my yoga mat and then put it away and move the furniture back.

There is now no need to hide a few plants from anyone including the police.