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Re: Gardening

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Geraniums finally outside today for the summer. I didn’t have the heart to throw any away last winter as they were still flowering in November. Having never successfully kept any over winter in our garage or shed, they got shoved into various free corners of our house. Just need to watch for the Eisheiligen weather thing in May. Never really understood what that means?
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I think the Eisheiligen thing is no longer a real marker what with climate change and all. They are Saints Days in the middle of May, associated with the last frost, but for example this year, I think that's what stung us 2 weekends ago, and this week planting out seems safe to do.

A brilliant thing in our Kleingarten is that the pond which sadly sprung a leak about 7 years ago and has just been an embarrassing wart on the landscape since, has suddenly sprouted newts in droves, so we have carefully investigated (giving all deference to the Naturschutz of the newts), found and mended some leaks and hopefully re-invented the ehemalige fishpond as a wildlife pond. It is so exciting - newts are so cool, it's like a mini Jurassic park in there :)
If anyone has ideas for covering/protecting the liner on the steep sides of the pond, that'd be great. The shallow half is easy - fleece, under-soil, rocks, plants, gravel, looks fab, but the original shape has the other half pretty steeply sloping and that's harder to do.
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kiplette wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 7:45 pm I think the Eisheiligen thing is no longer a real marker what with climate change and all. They are Saints Days in the middle of May, associated with the last frost, but for example this year, I think that's what stung us 2 weekends ago, and this week planting out seems safe to do.
You are right, the Eisheiligen is just a name given to a week in the middle of May, but it’s a fun old farmer’s rule and this year has shown us that it’s not a bad rule to follow. We had lovely weather at the end of March and some nice days during April, but that’s still too early to plant out the more sensitive plants. There’s always the possibility of a frost before the middle of May, some years we have it, some we don’t, so the Eisheiligen, or the middle of May, is a good guide. The weather does indeed seem settled now, so I’ve moved my tomato plants outside.

Hope you manage to sort our your pond.
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Eisheiligen? Schafskälte!

The Schafskälte, sheeps cold, is a possible period of cold weather in June, the old farmers knew about it, their grandparents told them, so they sheared the sheep later when the risk of cold weather was negligible. Oftentimes the poor beasts suffered in the normal warm weather, but if the Schafskälte occured they could die of cold.

Old sayings* are great, they are the result of long experience of weather, animals, people.

* Contentment is found oftener in cottages than in castles.
Erst der Spaß, dann das Vergnügen/first the fun, then the enjoyment
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Re: Gardening

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Guys, do your tomatoes grow?

I'm pretty frustrated because, same as in past years, the tomato plants I started from the seed are very promising at the beginning, but soon after that they stop growing and die. Different types but generally almost same behavior. Not all of them, but most. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

The few that seem to be doing better are moving outdoor (some real outdoor, some in the mini-greenhouse I'm getting today)

Chilies this year are doing well, though.
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Thus far, no problems, but I am way behind you, so that's not necessarily meaningful.

You have had massive crops in the past - were they bought plants, or your own grown from seed ones?
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Alberto wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:35 am Guys, do your tomatoes grow?

I'm pretty frustrated because, same as in past years, the tomato plants I started from the seed are very promising at the beginning, but soon after that they stop growing and die. Different types but generally almost same behavior. Not all of them, but most. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

The few that seem to be doing better are moving outdoor (some real outdoor, some in the mini-greenhouse I'm getting today)
You are using 500ml yoghurt pots for the seedlings, aren't you?
Did you make enough holes at the bottom?
Because tomatoes do not like wet feet, if the soil becomes too wet, their roots begin to rot:

You cannot move the tomatoes out completely, you first have to harden them, i.e. 1 hour outside on day 1, then 2 hours outside on day 2 and so on: https://plantura.garden/uk/vegetables/t ... f-tomatoes

And move them into the shade first, or the leaves will get sunburned, i.e. turn white: https://mattmagnusson.com/tomato-leaves-white/
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Agree with Panda, but also, do not water from above - they don´t seem to like getting their leaves wet.
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Thanks for the tomato answers.
Yes, I did do plenty of holes at the bottom of the 500ml yogurt pots.

Good news: they now got their first step onto the property ladder🙂
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Nice.
I have repurposed an old rebar obelisk thing which has been hanging around for about 5 years doing nothing in particular, and put my Berner Rose tomatoes in a big pot with that as support. I'll make it a rain hat at some point, I guess, but they are a way off flowering.

The ones in the bus shelter are already flowering. The tumbling patio ones which I just have a lot of seeds for are in a particularly nasty IKEA tower of pots thing which is round a corner and out of view. Only after planting and setting up with the help of kid#2 (all very heavy) did I realise I'd put them in Muttererde rather than topsoil, so I'm now making compost juice for them to try to make up for that faux pas. Muttererde is dug from below the topsoil and is generally lower in nutrients - great for the pond we just revamped but a bit crap for greedy tomatoes. Hey ho.

First time I have made this much effort. Hoping for millions :D

What I actually came on to post is this:
https://visdeurbel.nl/en/the-fish-doorbell/
not actually gardening as such, but hopefully interesting to you folk. The fish are not queuing up as I'd hoped, but you never know what's just swimming upstream.....
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There are Fish at the Fishdoorbell Right Now!!!! Link in post above. I was so excited I forgot to press the doorbell (duh) but probably one of the 555 people watching at the time did, so all good.
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Looked out of my kitchen window today, and noticed I was getting help with the weeding, and then later on, it was saving me from having to go out and do some strimming too.
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Does anyone have any experience of electroculture for outdoor plants? I’ve read about it a bit over the last few years and curious about any real experience anyone has had. @Alberto, as a scientist, do you have an opinion on the credibility of electroculture?

My great grandfather owned a piece of farmland in the middle of a shared large field. Seemingly common back then that strips of land were owned to grow produce. Family legend says that his produce yielded more than any of the neighbouring land strips as he installed simple aerial type poles. Of course no one recalls what these were exactly, only that he’d learned this from previous generations. I’m curious!
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Slugs seem to be enjoying my tomato plants - anybody got any really good ideas of how to get rid of them?
I´ve tried coffee grounds, sawdust, and watering only in the morning, and do not want to use chemicals.....
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Robinson100 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:57 pm Slugs seem to be enjoying my tomato plants - anybody got any really good ideas of how to get rid of them?
I´ve tried coffee grounds, sawdust, and watering only in the morning, and do not want to use chemicals.....
Slugs are a huge problem this year Rob, I've heard it from so many of my friends aroud here who have gardens. I know you don't want to use chemicals and I can understand that, but chemicals seem to be the only thing that helps get rid of them, and hopefully, it's only for this year.
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Robinson100 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:57 pm Slugs seem to be enjoying my tomato plants - anybody got any really good ideas of how to get rid of them?
I´ve tried coffee grounds, sawdust, and watering only in the morning, and do not want to use chemicals.....
Empty yoghurt pots, buried in the ground at ground level, 3/4 filled with beer... Slugs dig beer, and then fall into the yoghurt pot and drown in the beer...
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Robinson100 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:57 pm Slugs seem to be enjoying my tomato plants - anybody got any really good ideas of how to get rid of them?
I´ve tried coffee grounds, sawdust, and watering only in the morning, and do not want to use chemicals.....
Put out salad leaves next to them.
--> the slugs will eat those, since they're tastier than tomatoes.

Or do a Bierfalle, i.e. attract them with beer and they will drown in it: https://www-mein--schoener--garten-de.t ... _hist=true

I'm testing SchneckenStopp rings this year - so far, so good: https://www.swiss-finest.de/shop/suche? ... eckenstopp
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Robinson100 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:57 pm Slugs seem to be enjoying my tomato plants - anybody got any really good ideas of how to get rid of them?


I have my bus shelter tomatoes in rings too, like Panda (different ones) and so far so good. The Berner Rose toms are in a huge copper container, and so far nothing has gone up there.

What I've also done, not so much for tomatoes but for hostas, which slugs are addicted to, is make sleeves out of clear plastic/glass bottles/jars and put them over the plants and into the soil by a cm or so. That's been brilliantly effective.

I have hostas in pots as well, and this year really noticed that the 3 pots with a copper tape ring around them have had no slug activity at all, whereas the one pot without the ring has been chewed mercilessly (I have now taped it as well). So although previously I've not really been convinced by the copper tape, this year it has been excellent. Those plants I also repotted at the start of the growing season and so they didn't have eggs already in the soil, which I think may have been a problem in the past.

My last and most horrid tip is to go out at night with a torch and a bucket and collect them. Mine go on the compost where they are welcome to do their thing, but the trip down the garden to the heap with a bucket of snails which move much faster than the folk tales would have you believe is a bit hideous. Off to do that now, in fact.

They regenerate the next night. There is no end to them. I don't think the compost heap ones are going back up because there are many many snails dancing on the compost on damp evenings.
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No garden here, just a large patio with a fair amount of potted plants and I'm having the same problem with snails this year. Probably because of all the rain the past months. I've even found some in the bird house when I check it in the mornings. Snails eat anything and everything - even shit. We've had a lot of crows here lately - screeching away annoyingly, but I found out that they like to eat snails, which is probably the reason they're here in the first place with snails in such abundance everywhere. So I tolerate them now instead of shooing them away. Surprisingly, I've since read that crows are songbirds, though their squacking is hardly pleasant to the human ear. But for them it must be.
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