Working in 2 EU countries simlutaneously doable?

[AlexInGermany]

Is it possible to work in 2 EU countries simultaneously ?

AI is saying there is some system which flags people who contribute social insurances to more then 1 EU country as non compliant.
Tax is also getting complicated but seems doable, but I see no solution for social insurances.

I was thinking is there is a way? maybe people or tax/insurance advisers from border cities (grenzegenger?) know how to do it?

I found something like A1 Certificate but this also seems only doable if company requests , no from personal end, and only for temporary duration.

[AlexInGermany]

noone has any idea ?

[pappnase]

Hey Alex,
I think no-one has answered cos it's a complex topic with lots of possibilty for getting it wrong, and most people don't work like this.
There have been threads in the past about cross-border working, but they always tended to be about having a job in one country and living in another, rather than having 2 jobs.
Looking at some of your other posts I think you said you are a freelancer.
What I can't see is if you are an EU citizen with freedom of movement or a non-EU citizen with a visa for Germany.

If you are an EU citizen, then I don't see any reason why you can't have clients in more than one EU country and do work wherever, then make all your social contributions in one EU country based on where you live, but I'm really only guessing.
If you are not an EU citizen then I imagine its a whole lot more complex...

I would strongly advise you to speak to a legal professional and get advice before you do something like this, regardless of what anyone may tell you here, we are really only a bunch of random strangers on the internet and getting it wrong could be costly.

[AlexInGermany]

thanks for reply

yes I mean for EU citizens, if on all this silly regulations will be added also work permit requirement it may become rocket science
too much regulations in EU I hope one day EU can function like US

I did in past both Regular employment and Freelancing
Freelancing makes in some countries things easy, for example in Germany less social contributions required
but some other EU countries even with freelancing require almost all social insurances to be payed like regular employee

but in this case I meant mainly 2 Regular employments in 2 different EU countries, not freelancing
I guess this topic was not that much actual in past, but since 2021 corona virus, many jobs shifted to remote working which opened whole different possibilities

[pappnase]

I suspect working two "normal" jobs in 2 countries is almost certainly going to be a problem EU citizen or not, but again I'm not a lawyer.
There are a bunch of German labour laws that will be dificult to manage, and whatever other country you work in will also have rules that you need to follow.
I can't imagine any employer is going to be particularly happy to have you working two jobs, so that suggests you don't intend to tell them, doing this without telling your employer is going to be twice as hard and that makes it even less likely that you will pull this off.

I mean you do you, but this isn't going to be easy.

[yesterday]

thanks for reply

yes I mean for EU citizens, if on all this silly regulations will be added also work permit requirement it may become rocket science
too much regulations in EU I hope one day EU can function like US

You should/will not require a work permit to work in 2 EU countries, this is part of the 4 fundamental freedoms of the EU, the freedom to work anywhere within the block, as if it was your own country.

There are basically 3 or three 4 things to consider your ability to work in any EU block, where you will pay TAX and what your social security contributions will be and if your employer will allow it.

The rules governing TAX residence, were established in DTAs ( Double taxation agreement ), which kinda of either pre date or post date the EU, the EU does not really affect your TAX residency, and your responsibilities. Sometimes there is no DAT between some countries.

Of course the UK has left the UK, but the responsibly to pay TAX in is not governed by the EU, its done but the particular DTA between countries.

Look at this guide to see if you are TAX resident in Germany and the UK, attached, even if you live in the EU.

You will need to look at agreements made between the 2 counties in the four category's to know your position in each area.

[yesterday]

Hey Alex,
I think no-one has answered cos it's a complex topic with lots of possibilty for getting it wrong, and most people don't work like this.

Good point, I think you are correct

[yesterday]

The other thing you should consider is is you are physically in 2 EU countries, then if you have private medical insurance then there maybe be a limit on the number of days you can spend away from 'home' country before you have to pay extra.

If you are public insured then there should be no problem, even its the UK