tipping etiquette

[alison]

Last weekend I went on a countryside walk with a friend. After walking for a couple of hours, we encountered an inn where we had lunch. The inn was a bit fancy so the total bill was about 70€. It was my turn to pay, so I settled up and then headed off to the toilet on our way out. During this time, our waiter accosted my friend and complained that we had not left a tip. I'm accustomed to leave a 20-25% tip in the US, but usually only put some money in the tip jar by the Kasse here in DE. What about this meal suggests that I should have left a tip? The price? The fact that we had table service? I've often had table service where no one appears to expect a tip.

Thanks,
Alison

[editorL]

Last weekend I went on a countryside walk with a friend.

I took the liberty to move this topic to "Berlin", as the tipping etiquette in Germany is not the same everywhere.

Berlin is special, it ain't the Germany standard...

[john_b]

Last weekend I went on a countryside walk with a friend.

I took the liberty to move this topic to "Berlin", as the tipping etiquette in Germany is not the same everywhere.

Berlin is special, it ain't the Germany standard...

FWIW "countryside walk" could easily mean Brandenburg, which isn't Berlin either...

What happened there is less about the price or “fanciness” of the inn and more about a mismatch of expectations—and, quite possibly, a waiter overstepping the usual norms.

In Germany (or Europe, for that matter), tipping is customary but structurally different from the U.S. It isn’t a percentage-driven system and it isn’t treated as a quasi-obligation tied to staff wages. Service staff are paid a base wage, so the tip functions more as a small, discretionary acknowledgment of service rather than a core part of their income.

In a situation like the one described—table service, a sit-down meal, and a bill of around €70—the local norm would typically be to round up or add roughly 5–10%. So instead of paying exactly €70, most people would say something like “machen Sie 75” or leave €3–€5 extra. It’s done directly when paying the bill, not via a tip jar (those are more for cafés, takeaways, or self-service counters).

What stands out here is not that a tip was expected, but how it was handled. Actively confronting a guest about not tipping is generally considered poor form in Germany. It breaks the implicit social contract: tips are expected in a soft, understated way, and any dissatisfaction is usually internalised rather than voiced. Even in more tourist-heavy or upscale places, that kind of direct pressure is atypical and would often be perceived as rude.

So the “signal” that a tip would be appropriate wasn’t the price alone, but the combination of full table service and a proper meal in a restaurant setting. The misunderstanding comes from the American visitor treating Germany more like a no-tip culture (which it isn’t), while the waiter behaved more like they were operating in a high-tip, entitlement-driven environment (which Germany also isn’t).

In other words, both sides drifted away from the local norm—one by not tipping at all in a sit-down context, the other by making an issue of it.

(For the record, I would have probably paid €75-€77 depending on how good I felt the service had been)

[alison]

In a situation like the one described—table service, a sit-down meal, and a bill of around €70—the local norm would typically be to round up or add roughly 5–10%. So instead of paying exactly €70, most people would say something like “machen Sie 75” or leave €3–€5 extra. It’s done directly when paying the bill, not via a tip jar (those are more for cafés, takeaways, or self-service counters).

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(For the record, I would have probably paid €75-€77 depending on how good I felt the service had been)

We were in Griebnitz See, near the border.

Should I then make it a practice to offer 5-10% more whenever there is table service? My friend did end up giving the waiter 10% more.

[Eric7]

In a situation like the one described—table service, a sit-down meal, and a bill of around €70—the local norm would typically be to round up or add roughly 5–10%. So instead of paying exactly €70, most people would say something like “machen Sie 75” or leave €3–€5 extra. It’s done directly when paying the bill, not via a tip jar (those are more for cafés, takeaways, or self-service counters).

[ . . . ]

(For the record, I would have probably paid €75-€77 depending on how good I felt the service had been)

We were in Griebnitz See, near the border.

Should I then make it a practice to offer 5-10% more whenever there is table service? My friend did end up giving the waiter 10% more.

Like John said, it really depends on how good you feel the service has been.
I have no problem leaving zero tip if the service person has been unpleasant or we've had to constantly chase them to get anything. If the service was fine, a standard tip would be 10%, possibly going a bit higher (on 70€ I'd go to 80€) if the service had been attentive. That includes things like quick service, asking if our dog needs water etc.

I'm in Bayern but would behave the same way anywhere in Europe. I understand the tipping system in the US and have gone along with it but it's fundamentally flawed and it does my head in.

[Fraufruit]

To take it a bit further, I usually tip on the net price before taxes. I don't need to tip the Finanzamt. Normally, around 10% depending on the quality of service.

[yesterday]

When I go to another country or locality, I try to find out what the the locals do in certain situations, like for example tipping, I then try to do the same.

tipping is very different, in different places.

For example tipping in America is normally expected and can be based on the service you feel you got. Tipping in America is normally considered part of the pay of the person serving you, so I would expect more tipping than normal, so the people doing that job have enough to live on. It part of their pay.

When I first came to Germany, I found out that tipping, was normally rounded up to the nearest mark, this is because the Germans just do not want so much change in their pockets ( because nobody paid by card in olden days ) and its considered that the waiters get enough money to have a normal life with their normal wages.

Of course me coming from the UK, who would have to go up and que to get a drink, I could never really see the point of the tip, because the waiter would not come around to our table and take the order, but sometimes I did tip.

Well when I am out with friends I just try to fit in with tipping.

Of course every waiter is more than happy to get a tip. I do not feel its right or wrong to tip, its just different places, have different views on it.

When I first came to Munich, my company gave me a guide on living in Germany, tipping etiquette was part of that, but their are many other funny things in that guide, which I read every 5 to 10 years.